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Chair Brown asked if there was any information about how no tipping fee would <br />affect the municipal budgets. This information will be provided. It was answered that <br />there would be a significant reduction in the municipal budgets. <br />Jeff Hughes took aver the presentation at this paint. He said that they looked at <br />multi-year cash flaws, capital planning, and tested new revenue scenarios. The model <br />financial planning framework includes three pots of money. When the revenue comes <br />in, it is split three ways. The projected shortfall for this year (2002-2003} in the annual <br />budget if reserves are funded is approximately $1.59 million. He summarized the fee <br />scenarios, which were outlined in the presentation (slides 37-38}. <br />In answer to a question from John Link, Jeff Hughes said that in mast cases, <br />these fees are incorporated into the tax bill. <br />Commissioner Carey said that the SWAB plan includes attaching the fee to the <br />landowner rather than the occupant of rental property, and the behavior of the occupant <br />is what generates the stream. He asked how this would work to provide compliance <br />with waste reduction when it is attached to the owner rather than the occupant that is <br />generating the waste stream. <br />Jan Sassman said that it would be no different than it is now because the owner <br />pays in the tax bill to the city and it is done by education and it makes recycling readily <br />available. <br />Commissioner Carey asked how we would prevent our citizens from subsidizing <br />other people from other counties when the fee is attached to the landowner and the <br />tipping fee is eliminated and private haulers bring waste to the landfill. Jan Sassman <br />said that we would not allow them to bring materials to the County's facility ar they <br />would have to pay. If they brought waste from County generators, they would not have <br />to pay a tipping fee. This would require some policing. <br />Commissioner Carey asked about not-for-profit owners being included and if this <br />included tax exempt owners like educational institutions. Jan Sassman said that they <br />envision it to be this way. He said that it was up to the other local governments to <br />decide if they should pay the fee. <br />Commissioner Jacobs made reference to the landfill closure fund of $2.5 million <br />and the $360,000 a year that would be set aside. He asked if other jurisdictions had <br />used a bond to do that. Jan Sassman said that one of the strong feelings of the SWAB <br />was that those of us who are using the landfill now are responsible for paying for the <br />closure. It seemed that putting aside the money now was a mare prudent way of <br />fulfilling the requirement of closing the landfill. <br />Commissioner Jacobs asked how the University figures into this. Jan Sassman <br />said that the SWAB felt that it would probably be best to have a separate negotiation <br />with UNC to assure that tip fees are received from them. <br />Commissioner Jacobs would like to get some suggestions on what the <br />negotiating position with UNC would be. <br />Commissioner Jacobs said that it appears that there is no way to anticipate in <br />this scenario any possible sharing of facilities with any other jurisdiction. He asked for <br />more information on this possibility. <br />Commissioner Gordon does not understand why the SWAB would want to <br />eliminate the tipping fee and why it could not be mixed in with other sources of revenue. <br />Jan Sassman said that it stresses the holistic nature of the solid waste enterprise, it <br />