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like that that we have been working with the industry and have been applying same of these new concepts with some new projects that have been coming an line an a volunteer basis. So we are optimistic that these are both functional and usable by the development community and by the electric contractors and by the power companies. If there are any questions for me that I will be able to field them, if not, there are some speakers that have signed up and we can move to that section. Chair Brown asked if they were going to get a response from the staff on all the questions brought forward by Duke Power. Craig Benedict said they would respond item by item before they go to the Planning Board. Commissioner Carey had a question about section 6.31.6H, regarding intrusiveness of lighting. He wanted to knawwhat non-conforming meant regarding sliding scale. Craig Benedict explained this. Public Comment: Mark Smith - OC Commission for the Environment. "Thank you for all the work you do every day doing this commissioner stuff. It is scary for me to look at your schedules. So does everyone have this in front of you? This is a presentation I prepared a while ago and gave to the Commission for the Environment and then to some people on the Planning Board and I guess originated the Ordinance you are seeing now and I am not going to go through the whole thing, it takes a little longer than I think is reasonable given that you've got like four sessions going for one. "But there is a lot of information in here about what light pollution consists of, the amount of waste, the environment impacts that are involved, security and safety issues, and a lot of things that Craig already touched on. I am not going to go over all that again. I think just for reference purposes, let's go ahead and flip to the pictures here, which Craig can put them up there too, the good, the bad, and the ugly. "I just want to give us all a {and I am going to apologize to everyone in the room here, you are going to go home looking at light fixtures, driving down the road now and moaning about bad lighting and good lighting, at least until we get this Ordinance implemented, not for the rest of your natural life hopefully}. So the first 3 of these basically give you an idea of what good basic lighting designs are. "And the idea with this Ordinance, as I am looking at it, is to just have good fixtures put in and it is a pretty simple matter; it is just an engineering, a technical fix. The idea is to have the light shining down on the things that you want to light up and not in your eyes, not creating glare and not creating safety and security concerns where you can't see what you are supposed to be trying to look at. And the way this works is that the first 3 pictures are called full cut-off fixtures. Basically they do not let the light go above the level of the fixture. And so for light pollution purposes that keeps the light, except what is reflecting off the moisture in the air, below the fixture off the pavement and keeps it from ending up in the sky and also saves you a whole lot of light, saves you a lot of energy. And so you have regular street lights here, go back a couple, and this is what you would want to put out in this parking lot instead of these acorns that basically emit light almost 360 degrees and just spray it up in the air.