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Ms. Price "And what about the efficiency? That is what I meant. Does it mean that we have several law wattages, I mean, would we have like a hundred low wattage light fixtures for a certain area. What would that cast as compared to having say a lesser amount of the brighter lights but with the proper shielding and if you don't have the domes. Ron Osborne "From a lighting design paint, you are usually better off having a lot of low wattage lights because that helps what is called the uniformity ratio. It's the ratio of the brightest area to the darkest area. But oftentimes if you are talking about more lights, that's more poles. You know that is more things for a car to run into, more pales sitting in somebody's yard, especially if it's a street project. The property owner buys rights, and very understandably doesn't want a pole in their front yard. Then you can't shift a pole fifty feet so it's not right in front of their house because then it throws out your uniformity ratio and your spacing. So, that's why there are a variety of fixtures and pole sizes and bracket lengths and everything else, because one size does not fit all. "To give you an example, on State highways, the Department of Transportation requires a lighting encroachment, just like they should. Any portion of light falling on the DOT highway has to be approved just like a pole sitting in a right of way would have. It's very hard to make one size fit all. So that's why there are a lot of varieties of different fixtures and lighting types and everything else. But the one basic common thread that can be addressed is the use of cut- off fixtures. It will impact adversely the spacing somewhat, but the gains from the elimination of that point source of light, being an irritant, from my experience, and I think the experience of like the City of Charlotte and other large municipalities is that it is worth it." Nicale Gooding - Ray "Ok. Are there any further questions?" "Is there a motion?" Chair Brown "I move that we refer this to the Planning Board and return it to the Board of Commissioners no later than May 20t" " Commissioner Gordon "I'd make that a motion and I'd add to refer to the Commission for the Environment, if it's the Board's pleasure. So it would read, `Administration recommends referring the proposed amendment to the Planning Board and Commission for the Environment far a recommendation to be returned to the Board of Commissioners no sooner than May 20t", 2003." Commissioner Jacobs "And do we want to have the Commission for the Environment make its recommendation to the Planning Board or are we going to get two separate recommendations?" Commissioner Carev "I think we ought to have them make it to the Planning Board." Commissioner Jacobs "So do I. If that's your motion, then I will second it." Chair Brown "Motion and a second. All those in favor, please say `Aye.' VOTE: UNANIMOUS [END OF DISCUSSION ON THE LIGHTING ORDINANCE]