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6/18/2002
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duty as elected representatives of those currently residing in the Northern Transition Area." The letter <br /> also makes the point that any future communications will be in writing as well as email. <br /> Commissioner Brown made reference to the verbatim account of a meeting of the UNC- <br /> Chapel Hill Board of Trustees which states, "Mr. Purdue moves approval of the sale of approximately 62 <br /> acres of the Horace Williams satellite tract to Winmore Land Management, the purchase price being <br /> $1.25 million in the form of a promissory note secured by a purchase money deed of trust of 30% of the <br /> gross sales revenue in excess of$15 million from lot sales for the entire 129-acre development." She <br /> asked what this means. <br /> Geoffrey Gledhill said that the purchase price for this property is $1.25 million plus 30% of all <br /> gross sales revenues in excess of$15 million for the entire development. The University will get this <br /> money. The specific terms of the note are not described here, but his impression is that it is not going to <br /> be a cash deal, but by a secured deed of trust on the property to ensure that the developers pay the <br /> money when they get it. <br /> Commissioner Brown made reference to page two where it describes how the sale of State <br /> property takes place which says, "If after investigation, the Department of Administration determines that <br /> it is in the best interest of the State that the land be sold, the Department proceeds with its sale." She <br /> asked what criteria the Department of Administration is using to determine if it is in the best interest of <br /> the State. Geoffrey Gledhill said that he did not have any information about that. He thinks that it is a <br /> business judgment decision. He said that the decision by the State is based on getting the most money <br /> they can get for the property. <br /> Commissioner Brown agrees that the Chair and Vice-Chair should meet with the Chancellor <br /> of UNC-Chapel Hill. She is amazed that the University is participating in a for-profit housing venture, <br /> especially in the face of not having any respect or regard for what the land use ordinances are for the <br /> local governments. She said that the Board of Trustees of the University is not elected and the County <br /> Commissioners are, but the Board of Trustees seems to have more authority. <br /> Commissioner Brown said that she noted that the purchase agreement states, 'The <br /> agreement to set aside 50-60 single-family homes priced under $170,000 for purchase by employees of <br /> the University, UNC Healthcare Systems, and the Town of Carrboro." She said that presumably they <br /> think this is affordable housing. She asked that when they meet with the University that they ask for a <br /> definition of"affordable housing"for people in Orange County. She said that this does not address <br /> affordable housing issues for anyone working for the Town of Carrboro. <br /> Public Comments <br /> Bryan Voyce made reference to the last page of the letter from Geoffrey Gledhill and pointed <br /> out on the map all of the Horace Williams property that is owned by UNC-Chapel Hill. It is not just going <br /> to be a little village, it is going to be Winmore I, II, III, IV, and V. However, it will not be looked at as a <br /> whole. He made reference to the Joint Planning Agreement and said that the County gave up power that <br /> it had but the towns did not give up any powers. Everyone felt that annexation would occur after Joint <br /> Planning and not before. He said that when he reads the agreement, it defines the transition area and <br /> that area has been jointly agreed to and requires a joint amendment to change it. It says that we have a <br /> map, which shows that this property is in the joint planning area. He asked the County Commissioners <br /> to read the agreement for what it says —an agreement for the Joint Planning area of the Northern <br /> transition area. He asked that the plain language of the agreement hold true. He asked that, instead of <br /> accepting the opinion that has been given, that the County simply ask the towns of Chapel Hill and <br /> Carrboro if they want joint planning in this Northern Transition Area. If they do, then we should talk about <br /> what would happen if annexation occurs first. If all parties agree, the land annexed could stay in the <br /> Northern Transition Area until the map is amended. The towns will want joint planning and by asking, it <br /> can be determined if this is true. He said that the opinion talks about the rights of the residents who are <br /> annexed. He said that the people here do not live in Winmore, they are surrounding Winmore (there <br /> were 35 people in the audience in support of Mr. Voyce). When the property is annexed, they will be <br /> hanging in the wind. He urged Chair Jacobs to write another letter to Carrboro or to call them and ask <br /> them if joint planning is really what they want. <br /> Kim Fouse lives in the Northern Transition area. She is surprised that something like this could <br /> undo the six-year long process of joint planning. She asked that the County Commissioners have a <br /> public hearing on the text amendments that were passed by Carrboro for the village mixed use. <br />
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