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Dr. Lyman: To answer the question directly, the numbers that I cited before were simply for people who were affected during the emergency phase, which is according to the code I used one week after the accident. So to try to calculate the long-term consequences, there are so many assumptions involved, it is essentially a very hard exercise. But just focusing on the people who are caught by the initial plume can be a very substantial consequence on the order of tens of thousands of cancers for a moderately populated area. Dr. Wing: I would just agree with the earlier speakers in saying that it is very hard to estimate a number. It is done all the time, but there are so many assumptions involved about things that are really wild guesses, there is no way to know what direction. Does the plume go towards Raleigh? It will be a very different number if it goes towards Raleigh then if it goes towards Pittsboro because of the different number of people. So I guess the answer to me is that there would be too many. Question: If it took a week to evacuate that many people, and how fast does a plume travel? I bring this up because our governor did not want to bring potassium iodide to our state for free because he assumed we would have a very fast evacuation. Of course that is not the only thing you need to take into consideration in terms of evacuations and consequences, that's what my question was about. Mayor Foy: OK, thank you. Next question. Question: I'm actually the Acting Coordinator of the Chapel Hill Citizens for Nuclear Safety and I have a question. Let me first note that our next meeting is next Wednesday, 7:00 p.m. at the Carol Woods Retirement Community. My question is, current scenarios seem to involve coolant failures. So has it been examined, what might be the outcome of a containment breach, let's say by explosives, followed by explosions in the waste pool itself? Dr. Alvarez: The studies that have been done that looked at this, the most recent one was done in October of 2000 by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. And it did look in very general terms at this. We do not know the sequencing of events. We do know that the study says that a large aircraft can cause the pool to breach, can cause the water to drain. We do know that explosions could lead to relatively prompt drainage of the water. But what happens after that, by the time the water gets down to, let's say there's about 15 feet of water above the cores, by the time it gets down to two or three feet above the cores, the radiation doses are so high that the area is uninhabitable, and the people who are supposed to go in there and fix it can't go in there without risking their lives through prompt radiation exposures. Once it gets down to exposing the core, depending on the age of the fuel, the study indicated that the time it would take for the fuel to catch fire would be somewhere between eight and ten hours. Once the fire starts, it starts to get worse because it strips off the hydrogen from the steam, which feeds the fire, and then the fire cannot be put out. And conceivably, given the Shearon Harris scenario, it could spread to other pools. But we are dealing with a situation, which is still based on, I guess you would call some sound science, chemical and physical principles, but a lot of things that happen we can only look to other analogs and the closest analog I can think of is the Chernobyl accident where you had something not at all similar but roughly analogous where an event occurred over a period of ten days that had profound radiological implications involving fire.