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Triangle Transit's offer to meet one-on-one for more information. She said that the <br />compressed timeframe is making this all more difficult. <br />Chair Pelissier said that the County Commissioners need to focus on the transit plan <br />before they decide to put anything on a ballot. She summarized some of the principles: <br />• Cost sharing between Durham County and Orange County -this is vital to the plan and <br />the concern is whether the cost sharing is reasonable. She feels it is reasonable. <br />• Does this cost sharing give them sufficient monies to do the bus plan in the first three <br />years? <br />• Need feedback on the prioritization of the bus service from the Towns. <br />Chair Pelissier said that she wants to know what needs to be discussed about the plan. <br />This is the homework that they all need to do regardless of when they put the transit item on a <br />ballot. <br />Commissioner Foushee said that she has been part of the process and Chair Pelissier's <br />comments are on point. She said that a lot of the time they have spent in this process so far <br />has been on the bus service. She said that Commissioner Cordon's comments about planning <br />for transit is one of the most crucial points of all. She does not want Orange County to miss out <br />on being part of the solution for regional transportation. She said that right now there is no <br />commitment from Durham or Wake Counties to put this on the ballot in November. However, <br />she would not want to stop the conversation about the future of transit. <br />Commissioner Yuhasz made reference to the number of parking spaces at the rail <br />station and said that 4,000 spaces may not be enough in the long-term. He needs to see the <br />information about how this will all work out. <br />David King said that the information does exist. He said that Triangle Transit has been <br />leading this effort but the land use decisions are made by the jurisdictions themselves.- He said <br />that he would be glad to sit down with the County Commissioners and talk through this further. <br />Chair Pelissier said that her peers have different areas of experience with the concept of <br />light rail. She suggested that Board members meet individually with Triangle Transit to learn <br />why they need light rail or at least schedule a work session to learn this information. <br />Commissioner McKee said that he would prefer having this information be presented to <br />the Board versus individually.. <br />Commissioner Yuhasz said that he would like a presentation focused on the light rail <br />component and assumptions on the land use. <br />Frank Clifton said that it will be difficult to explain to the public and there will have to be a <br />high level of trust developed between the County and the public over this plan because it will be <br />15 years before the train runs. <br />Commissioner McKee asked about the rider fee and what percentage of Triangle Transit <br />is fare free. David King said that 100% of the service requires a fare. <br />Chair Pelissier said that this is one of the areas that lack clarity. Chapel Hill Transit is <br />free, but TTA is not free. It is not totally clear how this is going to work with the additional bus <br />hours. She said that the Towns' expectation is that it would be an expansion of Chapel Hill <br />Transit and would be free. <br />Discussion ensued about the assumptions of the Chapel Hill Transit being fare free. <br />Commissioner Yuhasz asked for more information abou# when the tax is implemented <br />and the light rail comes to fruition. <br />David King said that it is built into the financial model. He clarified that the elected <br />boards decide and TTA implements it. <br />Chair Pelissier said that the one thing not fixed in the plan is the bus route and they still <br />need public comment about it. Overtime, the light rail might take ridership off the 54 .route, and <br />then there would be dividend hours. The County is responsible, but the Towns are large <br />stakeholders. This is not yet clear. She does not think the Towns really understand what this <br />
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