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34 Approved 9/7/11 237 238 Michael Harvey: Yes. Also with some comments on conditions staff has recommended and Mr. Hallenbeck submitted a 239 memorandum to as well and any other conditions this Board has. There has already been talk in the BOCC of posting signs in 240 terms of the ownership and maintenance of the pedestrian points, the potential and future stub out connectivity of the roads, 241 which they are willing to do. The big issues appear to be; the reconfiguration of these lots on the eastern portion of the project, 242 the sidewalk issue, the looping issue, the size of the utility lines. 243 244 Brian Crawford: We-wouldiike the applicant to consider the discussion about the sidewalk. 245 246 Chad Abbott: My name is Chad Abbot from Summit Engineering, the engineering- consultant for the applicant. The County can 247 essentially put a sidewalk where they want because we are saying there is a 50 foot right of way that DOT will agree with the 248 County to put a sidewalk in the right of way. The County will enter into a two part encroachment agreement with DOT such that 249 the applicant, the applicant doesn't need to reserve a space because there is a 50 foot right of way and we a saying that any 250 sidewalk to be put in would be there. We wouldn't reserve an extra five foot along the lots because typically it is put in the right 251 of way.....lf there needs to be additional construction easements where maybe the topography should be flattened out more, 252 then I don't think that-would be a problem, we would say vve would reserve a five foot temporary construction easement for the 253 sidewalks for a time when they are put in. The debate about the decision requirement the applicant to reserve a space is really 254 not we were moving in the direction of. We were saying that typically if a sidewalk is place for any subdivision, it is put in the 255 right of way. When it is in the right of way, they have no say about it, it is between the County and DOT . 256 257 Brian Crawford: It sounds like the- Board has come up with a suggestion and part of your response for the August meeting 258 addresses our suggestions. We ask for this preservation but you have a better solution to-meet that. 259 260 Chad Abbott: Prior to my responses, I want to make sure that what I was envisioning was that you were saying that-was not 261 what you had in mind. 262 263 Pete Hallenbeck: What is the road width? 264 265 Michael Harvey: It is 27 feet back to back. 266 267 Pete Hallenbeck: Is there on street parking? 268 269 Michael Harvey: No. 270 271 Pete Hallenbeck: So there is plenty of room. It sounds like simply because you can't build in the right of way.space allocated 272 then everything we are discussing comes down to encouraging the BOCC to ... 273 274 Michael Harvey: To enter into a two part agreement with DOT. 275 276 Brian Crawford: The next is the sewer item. Have we finished the discussion on that? 277 278 Michael Harvey: The applicant will bring some information back. The short of it is there is disagreement over the size of the line. 279 Staff has indicated they would like to see the water and sewer in Tinnin Road going up to the recommended 12 inch line. The 280 applicant respectively disagrees with that assessment and will be providing information from OAWS saying that an eight inch line 281 will be responsible and address future connectivity and fire flow, fire prevention and since all the homes will have in house 282 sprinkler systems, the eight inch line will handle all that. 283 284 That is the only current disconnect we have with the applicant. We have stipulated that if the BOCC and even the Orange 285 Alamance Water Sewer says the eight inch line then there is no basis for the condition and we will revise our condition. 286 287 Pete Hallenbeck: What is the diameter ofthe cul-de-sac? I know there has been some discussion about what diameter should a 288 cul-de-sac be and there was some concerned that every five feet was too narrow and being- something bigger was going to 289 get...and I am approaching this from a standpoint of what do you do when you have a 32 foot long fire truck trying to turn around 290 in a 35 foot cul-de-sac. 291 292 Chad Abbott: They were designed to DOT standards. 293 294 Pete Hallenbeck: At this point, I would be wiling to leave this as this matter needs to be reviewed by the fire marshal and make 295 sure you can take a fire truck used in the district down into the cul-de-sac and turn about without going back and forth.