ORD-2003-142 PD-1-03 State Employees Credit Union Addition Special use permit

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will allow gaps in that traffic for'the cars to turn left out, and either get i;n the centerturn lane, and far the traffic coming up from-the south, wanting to turn left in, they'll have pretty much a clear shot into the Credit Union; That's not as critical a movement as the left turn out. But, one benefit of having a traffic signal at the. location that it is, is that it will stop traffic in the southbound and northbound direction, which will°provide some gaps in that traffic stream forthose cars to turn in and out. Barry Katz: How many feet is it between your entrance and exit ...at the traffic light? Jonathan Parsons:: Thee. existing distance is approximately Z00 feet give or'take: Barry Katz; Roughly two cars or something?' Rynal Stephenson: It'susuallyabout 20 to 25 feet per car. Barry Katz: Ok, how .many cars would that: be? Rynal Stephenson:: About eight.: Barry. Katz:: if you're in the eighth car fitting at that traffic light, in traffic, and you couldn't make a left turn onto there:.,... Jonathan: Parsons: You: would still. be able to make a left turn if there are only`eight cars there Rynat Stephenson: Yes you could. And the analysis shows in the print-outs that l have with rne. The analysis print-outs are showing that the queues are going to backup about, I think it's tike a 190 feet or, something like that., Barry Katz;- Ls that right near the one car making a left-hand turn or twa cars making a left when sharing the traffic light when the traffic light is red? Jonathan Parsons: That's assuming there's a full. back up on Oakdale;.. Rynal Stephenson: That number I quoted' you, 190 feet, is what they-calla `95"' percentile queue, -which is the, it's not maybe the max,. but it's sort of the worst case scenario during'the heaviestl5 minutes of the heaviest hour: Barry Katz:. I don't want: to belabor it at all, but 1 anticipate Hillsborough traffic -Old 8G traffic -will increase significantly, and' hat's my opinion. Rynal Stephenson: Yes, I justwanted to point out about the sgnaC. Ted TriebeL• A couple of general questions onthe-traffic. You took cone-day look:af this on a Thursday. Is-that standard procedure, to take aone-day traffic count and then to generalize that to 365 days? Rynaf Stephenson.: Yes; sir. Well, it's just typically what the profession does, yes, sir. It's the traffic data collection is very expensive. You know to have someone., you know, sitting out there: counting all these intersections, you know, for days at a time, and that's accepted in the .profession. Yes: 'Ted Treibel: '1 understand why you wouldn't pick a peak day -the 15"' ar the 30t"'-but is there any reason why you_pick a Thursday, aid why didn't you pick a Friday, orsome other day?