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pocketbooks and with fixtures that they've had over a number of years and pushing them, <br />you're going to get some vocal opposition. To me it's much more important that we contain the <br />growth of bad lighting in Orange County. Time will take care of itself. You know that the <br />International Dark Skies made a huge effort in Manhattan, which most people would think is an <br />impossible task and they didn't even do it by retrofitting. But what happens is that in Manhattan <br />because of the aggressive retailing environment, facades are redone; often, store windows are <br />redesigned; storefronts are redesigned, and every time it is renovated, it has to conform. Within <br />ten years they did an unbelievable job of reducing vertical light pollution out of Manhattan. Of <br />course, the problem is everything around Manhattan is still non - conforming. That was the <br />reason I said that. Not that it would not be ideal to do that, but, my personal feeling is that it is <br />very important to get this on the books and functional, and protect us from what could happen in <br />a rapid developing period without any ordinance." <br />Moses Carey. Jr. "So you don't think we have a perfect world here ?" <br />Ron Osborne "No." (Laughed) <br />Moses Carey, Jr. "Thank you." <br />Ron Osborne "If I can make a brief comment on your question, as well. The suggestion I would <br />like to propose is that the Ordinance address all new installations initially, and, then, maybe be <br />revisited in incremental steps to see, if, based on its efficacy, does it need to go back and revisit <br />retrofitting. <br />"The retrofitting issue is problematic from several standpoints. Number one is, just as it <br />has been mentioned; it's going to get into someone's pocketbook. Someone's light goes out and <br />then all of a sudden you inform them, 'Oh, by the way, now we're going to have to up that, <br />fixture or whatever. It's going to be an increased cost. I think the important thing to do would be <br />to stop the bleeding based on the new installations. And, then, over time, I think that the <br />grandfathered or the existing installations would probably be addressed, because eventually <br />they do wear out. Eventually lightning strikes and things hit things. But what we would desire <br />from Duke Power's standpoint is something that does not place an undue burden on the <br />consumer and that can be done in an orderly and logical fashion. <br />"You may have a situation, and it could be a municipality or a County agency or private <br />party that has a whole system of lights. One light needs to be replaced. Because it's replaced <br />and does not match the rest of the system, it could impact the, not only the esthetics but the <br />illumination quality of that system. So, it needs to be looked at more carefully than just a <br />wholesale retrofit that gets triggered. I would like to offer you that Duke Power wants to be a <br />good steward of the system that we have, and we want to make sure that we are making the <br />best decisions for the community because we live here, too. I look forward to the day, I live in <br />southern Alamance County, I look forward to the day that Alamance County has some sort of <br />ordinance, again, that is not reactive, but it is proactive. That is what I would hope that Orange <br />County pursues. <br />Barry Jacobs "May I ask Mr. Osborne a question? How much does it cost to install a shield on <br />one of the sodium vapor street lights ?" <br />Ron Osborne "When you say a shield, there are two types. There's what's called a nemahead, <br />which is what you see in most people's backyards. The bulb is in there vertically. And for years, <br />things were done like paint the sides of them, or whatever. That's not proved to be very <br />effective. Duke Power ceased the practice of doing that about five years ago. There are <br />probably some of them out there, but it's just not very effective. Cost wise, I don't know what the <br />cost of the actual material would be, but the cost of sending somebody out there and performing <br />the work, especially if that cost is not passed on to somebody, which ultimately it would be, <br />