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Evelyn Lloyd said she is always concerned about the financial status of the Town. She does not agree with the number of apartments and the amount of water that will be needed for this development. This is something that needs a lot of careful thinking. Susan Doverbarger said that she was glad to hear about the ratio that was used to establish the number of students that are generated from new developments. She clarified that they are currently building an elementary school and a high school. They will need another middle school. Both of their middle schools are over capacity. It is their greatest concern to seek assistance with the middle school site and how to fund the school. Mayor Horace Johnson said that some of his concerns have been addressed. He made reference to page 2-1, paragraph 1, 4th sentence, which reads, "there are no absolutes or guarantees." He said this is frightening. He read the 3rd paragraph and said that this adds more fright to him. They would prefer having most of the development take place in the first years of the project. He feels that it is important for his board to look at this and do what is best for Hillsborough. Commissioner Brown asked questions that may be answered later. She feels this development will have a countywide impact and all the citizens will be paying for additional schools. She is concerned about having the traffic impact study done on the Old 86 corridor. She would like a further explanation from the Orange County Planning Department on how much support Orange County gives the Hillsborough Planning Department, and what obligation would Orange County have to Hillsborough if the project were approved. She is concerned about the lack of specificity on recreation and parks. She is interested in who would maintain the ball fields since Hillsborough does not have a Recreation and Parks department. She is concerned about erosion control. This project is large but the Erosion Control department is not large. She would like some additional information on the additional staff that will be needed from the County. She agrees with Commissioner Jacobs on the Affordable Housing issue. She also feels very strongly about open burning and the tree protection issue. Since this will necessitate clear cutting, she wants to know how they plan to protect trees in this area. Commissioner Halkiotis said that County government has spent a lot of money to keep Hillsborough looking like Hillsborough. They spent $125,000 to put a rock walkway around the old courthouse. They spent an additional $25,000 to put flemish brick on the Government Services Center. There was even a fake facade put on the roofline of the new jail addition to keep the historicity of Hillsborough in place. He opposed Lawrence Place on 70 West because of the traffic. Old 86 is an old two-lane narrow road and was never designed for 37,000 trips a day. The County does a lot for the Town of Hillsborough and he summarized these items. The biggest thing the County does is try to give the Orange County Board of Education money to build schools. He feels that something this size which shows retail space is really scary. He has some serious concerns. Keith Cook had no questions. He said most of his questions have been answered. He appreciates the hard work the Town has done on this project. Delores Simpson said that in reading the report, she was disappointed to see that very little attention was given to the schools. She feels that in the next few years, what constitutes a family will change. She feels the average size family will be larger in years to come. She thinks the Town and County need to think more about their schools. They will need to plan for additional schools, especially another elementary and middle school. She is delighted to hear that the developer will donate a site. Catherine Martin thanked the Town staff for their work on this project. She said that development would obviously occur in this area since it is prime real estate. The question is what is the best kind of development for this area, one developer doing a coordinated project or a lot of developers doing it in a piece meal fashion. The financial and traffic aspects will need to be considered. She likes the concept of having the TTA and park and ride lots. Schools, recreation and parks, and traffic are hot topics. Bob Bateman thanked the Town for letting the Board of Education sit in on this early discussion. He stated that this would be a tremendous impact on the County, especially on the resources of the Town of Hillsborough such as traffic, water, etc. He does question the projected number of students that will be generated through this project. His one personal concern is that he thinks that 2 %2 houses on an acre of land are too many. Chair Gordon made reference to tab 3 and said that some services are those that are offered countywide, but some of the services are unique to Hillsborough. She spoke to Eric Peterson and said she is assuming that when he calculated the expenses he did not calculate increases in things that would affect the Planning jurisdiction. She asked if there was any consideration given to services that have to do with land use planning, that are ordinarily provided by a town. There are some services that Orange County provides countywide, and then there are others that are land use jurisdictions that the County does not provide. She asked if the Town or the County would hire another Planning staff person. Eric Peterson said that he did not assume any cooperative efforts in providing the services. He assumed that as the Town boundaries expand, it is the Town's responsibility to provide the services. She asked Craig Benedict about his comment about maxing out the Planning Department staff. Craig Benedict explained that he was talking about the building services side of the Planning and Inspections Department. A project of this size would definitely increase the personnel needs in the inspection side of the equation.