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12 DRAFT CAS <br />1 location is that it will stop traffic in the southbound and northbound direction, which will <br />2 provide some gaps in that traffic stream for those cars to turn in and out. <br />3 <br />4 Barry Katz How many feet is it between your entrance and exit ...at the traffic light? <br />5 <br />6 Jonathan Parsons The existing distance is approximately 200 feet give or take. <br />7 <br />8 Barry Katz...what..~.roughly ten cars or something? " <br />9 <br />10 Rynal Stephenson It's usually about 20 to 25 feet per car. <br />11 <br />12 Barry Katz . Ok, how many cars would that be? <br />13 <br />14 Rynal Stephenson About eight. <br />15 <br />16 Barry Katz If you're in the eighth car sitting at that traffic light, in traffic, and you couldn't <br />17 make a left turn onto there [Oakdale]? <br />18 <br />19 Jonathan Parsons You would still be able to make a left turn if there are only eight cars <br />20 there. <br />21 <br />22 Rynai Stephenson Yeah, you could. And, the analysis shows in the, and the print-outs <br />23 were - actually, I have some copies with me - i think they're actually in my car, but--the <br />- 24 ~ analysis printouts are showing that the queues are going to back up about, I think it's .like a <br />25 190 feet (sic), something like that. - - ~~ <br />26 <br />27 Barry Katz Is that right near the one car making alert-hand turn or two cars making a left <br />28 when sharing the traffic light when the traffic light is red? <br />29 <br />-- 30 Jonathan_ Parsons That's assuming there's a full back up on Oakdale. <br />32 . Rynal Stephenson That number I quoted you, 19t7feet, is what they call a ~5~' percentile <br />33 queue, which is, which is the, it's not maybe the max, but it's sort of the worst case - - - <br />34 scenario during the heaviest 15 minutes of the heaviest hour. So, it's sort of a worst case, <br />35 and there still is room there. <br />36 <br />37 Barry Katr I don't want to belabor it•at all, but !anticipate Hillsborough traffic -Old 86 <br />38 traffic -will increase significantly, and that's my opinion. <br />39 <br />40 Rynai Stephenson Yeah, (just wanted to point out about the signal. <br />41 <br />42 Vice-Chair Schofield Ted. <br />43 <br />44 Ted Triebel A couple of general questions on the traffic. You took cone-day look at this <br />45 on a Thursday. Is that standard procedure, to take aone-day traffic count and then to <br />46 generalize that to 365 days? <br />47 <br />48 RYnal Stephenson Yes, sir. Well, it's just typically what the profession does, yes, sir. It's <br />49 that the traffic data collection is very expensive. You know to have someone sitting out <br />