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208 <br />DRAFT <br />671 instance but it does say, provide the maximum water quality protection practicable and that mitigation will be provided. I am a <br />672 strong believer in water quality. <br />673 <br />674 Pete Hallenbeck: I'd like staff to see I'm thinking correctly, or what but when I think mitigation, I don't think we're going to pollute <br />675 the stream here but we're going to plant this beautiful growth of trees here. I think mitigation will end up with a system that <br />676 protects the water as well as what it specifically outlines here. I think that I heard this in that storm management pond could <br />677 have a much bigger buffer around it if it had to be thirty feet away from the stream that we're talking about at the last meeting. <br />678 That concept of mitigation.... <br />679 <br />680 Craig Benedict: Yes, there are many ways to achieve suitable mitigation, in some cases they have to plant more than what was <br />681 disturbed. <br />682 <br />683 Pete Hallenbeck: So mitigation notes the goals of mitigation is no change of protection, the term refers to a way to come up with <br />684 a specific plan site by site that achieves the same results? <br />685 <br />686 Craig Benedict: I'd say that's fair. <br />687 <br />688 May Becker: I do want to ask one question just to be clear. We're taking the ordinance from allowing a pond if you establish a <br />689 riparian buffer around it to allowing a pond with mitigation which may be a riparian buffer or it may be some other form or <br />690 mitigation? Is that correct? <br />691 <br />692 Perdita Holtz: Yes. <br />693 <br />694 Andrea Rohrbacher: On page 43, d, uses allowable with mitigation and then the sentence below it says the following uses are <br />695 permitted. I thought we were changing the 'permitted to'allowable'. <br />696 <br />697 Perdita Holtz: Sorry, we missed that one. <br />698 <br />699 Larry Wright: Staff do you have any brief comments on what has been discussed. <br />700 <br />701 Craig Benedict: No, we're in line with what you suggested as changes and we're comfortable. <br />702 <br />703 Larry Wright: I'd like to go around to each member now and we are discussing stream buffers. Could you make your comments <br />704 brief please and express your opinion that you would like to convey to the Board: <br />705 <br />706 Mark Marcoplos: I comfortable with the state of the UDO on the stream buffer issue and look forward to learning as we go in <br />707 phase two and as we continue to protect the water. <br />708 <br />709 Andrea Rohrbacher: I am comfortable with it. I think it addresses, to the best of our knowledge, the concerns that we're aware <br />710 of to this point and we can in phase two make additional changes. <br />711 <br />712 Pete Hallenbeck: I have read every page of this 800 pages, I think I've got about 40 hours in this thing. I think the changes <br />713 we've made regarding the stream buffers have clarified some of the points that were brought up and further restricted some of <br />714 these. We still have some overriding concerns in the document such as goals, purpose, and intent for the County Commissioner <br />715 approvals and using the Comprehensive Plan for guidance while making decisions. I like that because that means when there's <br />716 a problem with details there's guidance on how to deal with that and my last general comment is that something that we keep <br />717 wrestling with here is the sum of these parts, the outcome that we want. I am noticing that every time we have a discussion <br />718 about something. Can you guarantee that by having all these little specific rules that when all those are applied you get what you <br />719 want. I have been trying in these discussions to figure out are we hung up on that or are we hung up on specific language. I am <br />720 happy with the state of the stream buffers for phase one at this time. <br />721 <br />722 Alan Campbell: I will be very brief. I am comfortable with the stream buffers section of the UDO. <br />723 <br />724 Larry Wright: With respect to stream buffers, I'm comfortable with it as it was presented and from what I do understand I do not <br />725 have the expertise in this area of either Mark or May and I have to go with what was presented and what I understand. To this <br />726 point I am comfortable with it. <br />727 <br />728 May Becker: I feel better about a lot of what we talked about toward the end of the last meeting. I feel its closely related to the <br />729 storm water section and we haven't spent time on that and I think that's why some of these questions have come up in terms of <br />730 ponds near streams and storm water and driveways which we talked about at the last meeting. You get a brief description of <br />731 something that is potentially going to be developed for example a pond near a stream and how that works with storm water but <br />12 <br />