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Approved 2/2/11 <br />487 <br />488 Craig Benedict: They can say it is not a good idea. It is legislative and the standards for denial of a legislative decision are not <br />489 as finite. <br />490 <br />491 Judith Wegner: Conditional Use rezoning of any type. <br />492 <br />493 Alan Campbell: Are you talking about a Planned Development? <br />494 <br />495 Craig Benedict: First rezoning and then meshed with an SUP. <br />496 <br />497 Alan Campbell: Is the big picture that planned development still requires, at some level, Conditional? <br />498 <br />499 Craig Benedict: Certain kinds of planned development. It is called your basic, smaller scale planned development that might ask <br />500 for some unique setbacks, etc. That will come in with an SUP and specific site plan. <br />501 <br />502 Tommy McNeill: Can you give an example on the ground? <br />503 <br />504 Craig Benedict: The only on the ground example I know is the Piedmont Electric Tower. They have their offices there. It was a <br />505 multiple use project with a telecommunications tower, their offices, a storage yard. They knew everything they wanted to do. <br />506 They brought in what the towers would look like and we went through a planned development process with the site plan and that <br />507 was the more smaller scale PD. That is when you have the site plan and an SUP that comes with the rezoning process. <br />508 <br />509 May Becker: Could you summarize which cases don't need a site plan? <br />510 <br />511 Craig Benedict: The third category is Conditional Zoning Districts. You still have the rezoning with conditions. People still ask for <br />512 a MPD, a conditional zoning district but I want to have a Churton Grove type of arrangement. I don't know what the store is going <br />513 to look like but this is where it will be, here is the road plan, the stream plan,. the drainage. They approve the rezoning with some <br />514 conditions. At that time there was a Master Concept Plan, not the final site plan. This is where the Master Plan differs from an <br />515 SUP that has a specific site plan. <br />516 <br />517 Larry Wright: Do you have elevation? <br />518 <br />519 Craig Benedict: It can be a conceptual elevation. How much of the land will be preserved as open space? This is more of a <br />520 Southern Vllage type of plan. That master concept plan is part of their rezoning petition so it becomes a guideline. They cannot <br />521 waiver from that Master Concept Plan. <br />522 <br />523 Samantha Cabe: The 33% can be rearranged? <br />524 <br />525 Craig Benedict: A little. There are two types of PDs. One you know what it is and one you don't. The second is more <br />526 speculative and that is what I think we would expect more of a Master Concept Plan with some of our Economic Development <br />527 Districts. It is not likely that someone will come in with a 20 acre Economic Development proposal and know the exact building <br />528 shape. The Master Concept says in pod A you can put 100,000 square foot, in pod B 50,000 square feet, and in pod C 25,000. <br />529 You can set all those parameters and you can max the entire project to 200,000 square feet of a certain use because you can <br />530 link that to how much traffic comes ftom office or retail, etc. After that Master Concept Plan comes, you do not have that specific <br />531 site plan. It comes through later and approved by staff looking at the standards that were created in the Master Concept Plan. <br />532 This is what is in our present code under the Mixed Use Planned Development. They can set all conditions and parameters to <br />533 make sure it is a good project. That is the difference and what we would expect is that even though Churton Grove did have a <br />534 SUP process with it, it actually used a Master Concept Plan that gave the latitude to not know exactly what the house looked like, <br />535 it didn't set the amount of square foot of the house but enough parameters that we could guide the developer. <br />536 <br />537 Judith Wegner: Both gives more flexibility and also more control. <br />538 <br />539 Larry Wright: Is there any time restriction between the concept plan and the site plan? <br />540 <br />541 Craig Benedict: Yes it is in here. ff they know they want to break ground on the infrastructure in one year, then they say they <br />542 want break ground in one year, etc. You can set all the reasonable conditions on the timing and the phasing within the rezoning <br />543 process. <br />544 <br />545 Larry Wright: Is there wiggle room if Hillsborough doesn't get the water in? <br />546 <br />547 Craig Benedict: In the case of Scottswood, they were waiting to get the new reservoir going. <br />13 <br />9 <br />
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