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ORD-2010-090 Amendment to Personnel Ordinance, Article IV, Section 9.4 Supplemental Retirement
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ORD-2010-092 Fiscal Year 2010-2011 Budget Amendment #4
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RES-2010-077 DENIED - Resolution To End the Expenditure of the Public’s Tax Dollars by the U.S. Congress for Excessive and Unaffordable Warfare Funding
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RES-2010-087 Resolution approving Motor Vehicle Property Tax Refund/Releases
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RES-2010-088 Resolution Providing Final Approval of Terms and Documents for County's 2010 Installment Refinancings and Equipment Refinancing
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� <br /> 1 veterans. He is a Vietnam veteran and he knows how people felt when they came back. He <br /> 2 said that they were told to come back to the United States not dressed in their uniforms <br /> 3 because they would be spat upon, and they were. He said that by not supporting your <br /> 4 veterans, you are telling them that all of the things that they have done are in vain. He asked <br /> 5 the County Commissioners not to support this resolution. <br /> 6 Ben Lloyd said that in his 80 years of calling Orange County home, four years was <br /> 7 spent in the service, 35 years was spent in some public and political involvement, and four <br /> 8 years was spent as a County Commissioner. He said that in this entire period, nothing in his <br /> 9 opinion has been as upsetting to him and as ridiculous as this resolution being considered. He <br /> 10 said that nobody likes war, but cutting off funds for the troops is not the answer. He said that <br /> 11 agreeing to do so sends a message to the Taliban, AI Qaida, and terrorists to come in and <br /> 12 take over. He said that he read an article in the Durham Herald in October where Iran and <br /> 13 Venezuela has formed a close partnership to establish a new world order that will eliminate <br /> 14 western dominance. He said that the intent of these groups is to kill us. The President <br /> 15 recently sent 30,000 more troops to end this situation over there. He suggested that the <br /> 16 County Commissioners let Congress and the military leaders handle it. He said that Colin <br /> 17 Powell was on Larry King Live last night and Colin Powell's statement was, "we must stay <br /> 18 engaged and not walk away." This resolution is walking away. He said that he is embarrassed <br /> 19 that a resolution such as this is even considered. <br /> 20 Bobby Nichols said that he represented the WW II veterans. He spent a couple of <br /> 21 years in the Navy. He did not do any fighting, but every person that he knows that has served <br /> 22 in the military was willing to die for their country. He said that this resolution was the wrong <br /> 23 thing to do. He said that terrorists are our big worry in this world now. He said that we need to <br /> 24 pay our servicemen, and he is opposed to putting this money into education or anything else. <br /> 25 He said that his son went to get a job and they told that him that he was overqualified. <br /> 26 Bill Ray is from the northern part of the County. He said that for Orange County to ask <br /> 27 the President to send 30,000 troops to Afghanistan and then deny him the money is ridiculous. <br /> 28 He did not know that Orange County was getting involved in national politics. He said that the <br /> 29 federal government should handle this. He said that he has been in the service three different <br /> 30 times and if the service men and women are not supported, the country will go down the drain. <br /> 31 <br /> 32 Commissioner Hemminger said that she appreciated all of the dialogue on this. She <br /> 33 said that she is not inclined to support this. <br /> 34 A motion was made by Commissioner Hemminger, seconded by Commissioner <br /> 35 Yuhasz to not support this resolution. <br /> 36 Commissioner Gordon asked if this meant both of the resolutions and Commissioner <br /> 37 Hemminger said yes. <br /> 38 Commissioner Pelissier said that she appreciated this resolution that was brought to <br /> 39 them because it raises questions that the County Commissioners need to think about, such as <br /> 40 what kind of resolutions that this Board of County Commissioners will consider. She said that <br /> 41 she has thought about the resolutions that the County Commissioners have passed while she <br /> 42 has been on the Board. She said that she got confused about this resolution and whether it <br /> 43 was asking for increased monies locally or a moral statement on the funding of the war. She <br /> 44 said that Carrboro's resolution was more about finances. She does not think that the County <br /> 45 Commissioners should make resolutions about moral statements, but rather to advocate for <br /> 46 the health and welfare of Orange County residents. She does not see that this resolution is <br /> 47 supporting that. <br /> 48 Commissioner Jacobs said that he does not disagree with anything that has been said <br /> 49 by his colleagues. He said that there have been two times since he has been on the Board <br /> 50 where the County Commissioners passed resolutions that had to deal with national issues. <br />
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