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53 122 Jeffrey Schmitt: I presume the state is trying to take care of us but under the auspices of whatever Orange County says we have 123 now expanded that by a factor of twenty fold. Since we have the capability to do this and the technology says that this can be 124 carved out and left at the zoning,one unit per one acre,why would we diminish the value and the right these people have with 125 those particular three parcels of property, no matter what they can or can't do with other restrictive covenants,simply to bring it 126 into a much larger,more restrictive basis. There is no argument we have for taking that in. 127 128 Samantha Cabe: I don't look at this as canring out this isolated area. Going through the way Craig explained it,he explained the 129 watersheds around each of these areas that are necessary in the Planning DepartmenYs view of what is necessary to protect 130 these watersheds. This particular area is not necessary from the Planning Department's point of view to protect the watershed. I 131 don't see it as carving it out but rather it is not included in these critical area nodes. I agree with Jeff in why should we just throw 132 it in an include it just so it appears that we are not carving it out because there are individuals who own this properry,not Orange 133 County so if we don't need it to protect the water we should not mess with it. 134 135 Larry Wright: I disagree totally because as Craig said,that realistically you could not build less than one house on two acres 136 because of the perk conditions on here. I agree with Mark that this in a watershed and there are two reservoirs there. We can 137 see streams that drain this watershed right in front of our eyes and i really feel very strongly, I live up here that this should be 138 within the protected area. 139 140 Samantha Cabe: The statement that people can't build there given the soil is not necessarily a complete statement because 141 people can do engineered systems that cost more money but I think Mr.Benedict is referring to the fact the soil doesn't perk for a 142 traditional septic system. Someone could put additional house sites if they wanted to take the extra money to have an 143 engineered system so I don't think we need to assume they can't. 144 145 May Becker: In terms of the arguments, I think it is important to consider the watersheds are very limited because you have 146 potentially infinite growth coming into this Counry and there's been a great push for growth but as a geologist and marine 147 scientist, I have looked at a lot of these types of studies in terms of what is known and what is not known, in terms of the 148 modeling techniques that they have used in the past and more recently and to think that you can simply do a study and then 149 reach conclusions as to what needs to be protected or not(tends to oversimplify the question). These are very limited resources 150 and have potentially unforeseen effects when it comes to contamination. I don't understand how you could have a line in 1994 151 that effectively protected the watershed and then weaken the rules--unless you have a specific strong argument and reason to 152 weaken the rules--I don't understand why you would want to do that. 153 154 Larry Wright: I agree totally with what she says and you can argue for development but the bottom line is no water flows into 155 Orange County. Our water flows out. 156 157 Samantha Cabe: I am not necessarily saying we should not agree with all the critical areas they have identified. I guess I am 158 questioning this iso�ated area that if the studies are saying this is not a source of water,we shouldn't include it just to be including 159 it just so it looks like a complete map. 160 161 Mark Marcoplos: This donut hole is surrounded by critical area. That is not random. It is within the boundaries of the critical 162 area so we are not taking a random site out of the critical area and saying that we are going to just put restrictions on that. It is in 163 critical area. It is all part of that same eco system. I don't know where the assumption came that it is not necessary to be 164 concerned about this land and I didn't ever understand the sophistication of the technology that was alluded to for monitoring 165 this. 166 167 Craig Benedict: We could put identify this exact area on a map so if someone comes in to develop there is ease of 168 administration,whether it is in or out that in the old maps that we would have a more difficult time putting this on a GIS map now 169 that we have the technology. If there is such an aberration that we need to keep in there, we will be able to, from an 170 administrative standpoint track down in the future for any development potential. 171 172 Mark Marcoplos: What would you be monitoring for? 173 174 Craig Benedict: To know exactly where on what property where the line occurred between critical and protected. 175 176 Mark Marcoplos: Couldn't you do that everywhere? 177 178 Craig Benedict: Yes. We do that everywhere. 179 180 Perdita Holtz: He is referring to 1994 hand drawn maps so there was more of a precision problem of being able to stipulate this 181 is the area that is out. 182