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37 <br />Approved lU4/09 <br />Craig Benedict: I do not but 1 did ask staff to do it to see how the standards meet. At the next meeting for informational <br />purposes I will try to have examples for you. <br />Earl McKee: Churton Grove would be more helpful to me. <br />Peter Hallenbeck: The 50,000 lumens are about 800 compact florescent watts, 1,200 in a metal and about 3,600 incandescent. <br />Earl McKee: I still can't visualize that. <br />Peter Hallenbeck: Does it seem like a lot of light? <br />Earl McKee: It doesn't seem offensive or glaring. <br />Mark Marcoplos: That's a valid observation. <br />Judith Wegner: For citizens if you had a photographic depiction of that, they will ask those questions. <br />Mark Marcoplos: We are striving for energy benefits. Not only for economic benefits but also environmental. What is the most <br />energy efficient way to achieve the lumens necessary for a particular facility? <br />Craig Benedict: A lot of the new manufacturing standards are making the lumens more directive and efficient. <br />May Becker: Just a point of clarification about the residential. If you have a residential house, you don't require a site plan so <br />this would not apply, correct? For example, a developer building in an area with several residential homes? <br />Craig Benedict: If it is a subdivision and they want street lights, they have to meet these standards. Residential subdivision <br />developer for the public roads or private road if they want lights would have to follow these standards. <br />Judith Wegner: We will move on to page 29. <br />Craig Benedict: This does not include security and motion sensor designs that automatically tum off. <br />Mark Marcoplos: On the top of page 29, "flagpole lighting", why is this being important? <br />Craig Benedict: This was there previously. <br />Judith Wegner: You have probably seen gas stations in Durham with lots of lights. <br />Larry Wright: I looked at five muniapal lighting ordinance and this is in every one of them. <br />Mark Marcoplos: We are just suppose to say we are going to bum wattage? <br />Larry Wright: The light fixtures have to be concealed in the ground and angled at the flag. <br />Mark Marcoplos: Even while we are sleeping. <br />Larry Wright: Some (ordinances) say they discourage flying the flag after dark. <br />Pete Hallenbeck: Unless it is lighted. <br />Mark Marcoplos: This is an opportunity to save some energy and the most patriotic thing to do would be lower the flag and not <br />light it while we're sleeping. <br />Craig Benedict: We can put an asterisk by that. <br />Larry Wright: I have copied some of them here. They say "flags of the United States are encouraged to be flown only during <br />daylight hours but night time display is permitted provided illumination is by no more than two spotlight fixtures exceeding 3,000 <br />lumens. The spotlight can be either direct burial ground fixture or the pole mounted fixture aimed upward in places close to the <br />flag as possible". <br />