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34 <br />Approved 11/4/09 <br />May Becker: Could you summarize what it refers to in terms of residential versus commercial? <br />Craig Benedict: Residential is single family, multi family, or townhouse. Non-residential would include churches, industrial, <br />commercial, office parks and the like. <br />May Becker. This ordinance refers to residential or commercial changes? <br />Craig Benedict: Both. In here there are different standards that state if it is anon-residential property next to residential <br />property, the cutoff has to be less. We have both an urban standard and a rural standard. There is interest of the planning <br />board that how we look at subdivisions in rural areas versus areas should be different. Based on suggestions from the planning <br />board, it proceeded to the Board of County Commissioners and they divided the area of County planning jurisdiction to two <br />areas, rural and urbanized. We have different standards we have to go through based on subdivisions. Projects that have <br />lighting in urban areas will have different standards than rural areas. <br />Peter Hallenbeck: On page 21 beginning with exemptions, the way it is written, "the mercury vapor", you may want to change to <br />metal vapor because they are both mercury and saline vapor and the other thing to think about is that you may want to add <br />incandescent over 150 watts. There are still a lot of people using 300 watt quartz halogen lights which are incandescent. If you <br />do those two things, you'll be cutting out some loopholes. <br />Craig Benedict: We can put metal in. <br />Larry Wright: In the definitions, when you are referring to light trespassing onto other places, generally when you research that, <br />they use the term "light trespass". The definition is intrusion of direct light projected from one property or roadway onto another <br />property or roadway. It is a standard term used in the field you might want to consider using that. <br />Craig Benedict: We will ensure any information that comes from this meeting is within the spirit and intent to what we advertised <br />for the ordinance amendment in the papers, so we don't wander too far from that. Back to page 22, submittal requirements we <br />have elaborated on what is necessary within the lighting plan. <br />Larry Wright: When you talk about metal or mercury vapor, do you think that should be among your definitions? <br />Craig Benedict: Yes, okay. <br />Peter Hallenbeck: On page 22, item I, the first line states security lights of any wattage, then at the end it states it cannot exceed <br />150 watts? That stuck me as an odd paragraph. <br />Craig Benedict: If a low wattage is exempt from this ordinance and its 100% watts, it would be subject to this ordinance. <br />Peter Hallenbeck: But it reads "security lights of any wattage that are controlled by amotion-sensor switch thafdon't.stay on <br />more than twelve minutes and do not exceed 150 watts". Is it security lights of any wattage or security lights that... <br />Craig Benedict: I agree the writing could be different. It looks like an add-on. <br />Peter Hallenbeck: If you pull into my house at night, you will get about 300 feet off Brook Hollow, about 28000 lumens of light <br />spread out over a 900 foot driveway in from of the house but there is no one fixture that exceeds 2600 lumens so it seems that <br />secure lights of any wattage make sense as long as they are on a motion timer. I would put in a strong vote from just getting rid <br />of the 150 watt limit constraint. <br />Judith Wegner: Was the idea there to say something about on the one hand if you have motion sensors, which is limited time, <br />which is one idea and then low level security lights. Do you think under 150 watts is consistent? <br />Peter Hallenbeck: The automatically turned on for a time, it doesn't make sense to constrain the wattage. <br />Judith Wegner: Would there be a case for security lights that aren't time but low wattage? <br />Peter Hallenbeck: There are all sorts of reasons, dark sky, saving energy and the whole idea of these ordinances that you want <br />to encourage people that tum on with motion detectors and otherwise off. <br />Judith Wegner: Do you think in other settings there would be a reason to keep low level on? <br />2 <br />