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move in the right direction, it has to change the symbols and the messages. The County wants to <br />create developments that are transit - friendly, pedestrian - friendly, and bicycle - friendly. She said <br />that there is no clear evidence that if drive -thrus are banned that a message is sent to the <br />business community that they are not wanted. She thinks that banning drive -thrus sends a <br />message about the kinds of businesses that the County does want. <br />Commissioner Hemminger said that she would like to formally ask the school districts to <br />educate their students and families about the issue of idling. <br />Commissioner Yuhasz said that the areas that this would affect are the EDD's that are not <br />in Chapel Hill or Carrboro, and the environment and atmosphere will be different in Orange <br />County. There will not be a lot of development where people can walk to the places that are going <br />to develop. He said that there is significantly more greenhouse gas created by the kiss - and -go <br />lanes at the schools than will ever be created by all drive -thru restaurants that ever might be <br />created in Orange County, and this ban does not address that at all. He said that this ordinance <br />would not minimize greenhouse gas. He thinks that the message with this is that Orange County <br />does not like drive -thrus and the food that is served and the people that go there. He does not <br />want to send that message. <br />Commissioner Jacobs said that he originally proposed this idea about banning drive -thrus <br />and it has nothing to do with the kind of people that use drive- thrus. He said that once he <br />proposed it, he has never used a drive -thru anywhere, even at a bank. He said that he has <br />always been opposed to the size of the kiss - and -go lanes at schools. He said that someone has <br />to take the lead in addressing a culture that is so car - oriented. He is willing to consider a motion <br />to do education before a ban. He said that this has to do with emissions, but there needs to be a <br />clearer and targeted message. If not, then the Board will vote 4 -3 for the ban. <br />Chair Foushee asked Commissioner Yuhasz to restate his motion. <br />A motion was made by Commissioner Yuhasz, seconded by Commissioner Hemminger to <br />accept the Administration's recommendation, substituting option 3 for option 2 in #4. He said that <br />he might be willing to accept some modification of the motion to put some reasonable time limit on <br />the education component to see if it has had an effect, and to involve the schools. <br />Commissioner Jacobs suggested asking staff to come back with a proposal with a specific <br />timeframe, a way to measure the effectiveness of the educational component, and a plan for the <br />education. Commissioner Yuhasz agreed to add this to the motion. <br />VOTE: Ayes, 3 (Commissioner Yuhasz, Commissioner Hemminger, Commissioner Jacobs); <br />Nays, 4 <br />MOTION FAILED <br />A motion was made by Commissioner Gordon to approve the Administration <br />recommendation, Option 2: Regulate as to the location and operational characteristics, required <br />landscaping, and cumulative number of drive -thru facilities. <br />There was no second and the motion failed. <br />A motion was made by Commissioner Foushee, seconded by Commissioner Hemminger <br />to recommend that the Board take no action at this time. <br />VOTE: Ayes, 3 (Chair Foushee, Commissioner Hemminger, Commissioner Yuhasz); Nays, 4 <br />MOTION FAILED <br />