ORD-2009-144 Application of Dimensional Requirements to Establish Regulation Governing the Development of Drive-thru Facilities within the County–Option Two-Regulation

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14 147 environment, and health we are called upon to meet the challenge to limit businesses that are part of the 148 problem. I am in favor of a ban. 149 150 Rachel Phelps Hawkins: I think as Mary said that education should be number one starting in the schools 15l when the kids are very young. The other problem is we have buses half full, everyone doesn't have to 152 drive their kids to school but they do and the buses are running with no one on them wasting gas. 153 154 Brian Crawford: Michael or Craig are we still under the EPA mandate for this area because of the number 155 of pollutants we put in the environment? I understood the Triangle had some sort of restriction. 156 157 Craig Benedict: The non - attainment designation has been released. We are now in another stage where 158 we had to provide a management and maintenance plan to make sure our land use plan and other policies 159 in the future would not move us into the non attainment area again but we have been released from that 160 non attainment zone. 161 162 Brian Crawford: My second question is has anybody sat down to look at the link between how severely our 163 drive -thrus in this county impact our carbon output. I don't think that's been looked at enough, we know 164 intuitively that it makes sense but if this isn't done will it throw us back into the management plan or EPA 165 guidelines. I don't understand how this is a solution. It looks like we are jumping to this regulation as a 166 solution to our emissions problem in the area but yet no one has made that connection that this would help 167 it at all. I say that because its seems to be that at the Commissioner level three are some fairly strong 168 opinions that this ban should be in place. 169 170 Michael Harvey: I think the goal we were asked to look at is what some reasonable regulations might be 171 because it's not just emissions or environmental pollution that are the ultimate concerns that we are 172 attempting to address here. It is noise; it is the commingling of pedestrian and vehicular traffic, stopped 173 traffic in drive -thru lanes. It is the shielding and buffering that provide esthetic separation from these types 174 of uses as well as help augment potential emission issues. Planning staff doesn't have the opportunity or 175 wherewithal to do the study that has been discussed. I don't' know where the County Commissioners 176 would be with funding such a study. These regulations were written to address County Commissioners' 177 concerns about coming up with options. We believe the regulations we have provided in the options try to 178 address those and provide reasonable regulations and not to address emission issues but address some of 179 the other issues identified during the review of the Buckhorn Village project as well as other issues that 180 have come up in the past about what is acceptable and what we should be trying to encourage to offset 181 some of the other concerns. 182 183 Mary Bobbitt- Cooke: I'm not sure we can really translate California data into Orange County. In the public 184 health information in this report looking at maybe doing something about childhood diabetes if they stop 185 drive - thrus, that is way off the charts, public health is really more responsible than that. I think someone did 186 it to make a presentation at a meeting. Obesity is an issue but it's not going to be solved by drive -thru 187 regulation. My real point, is that where there are big concentrations of emissions are where our children 188 are. Asthma is the number one reason children miss school. We may want to regulate these new 189 businesses when they come into this county but we are ignoring the health of our children. That is a public 190 health fact. I really think we would be remiss not to send back to our County Commissioners the idea that 191 using a pass through for health reasons or emissions is missing where the emissions really occur and that 192 is harming a very vulnerable and fragile part of our population, our children. It is voluntary, of course 193 people won't keep their car off when they need it for air conditioning or heat but the reality is as more 194 people get educated, the more they will turn them off. Public health has learned that you start with 195 education before you regulate. I would recommend that we send a message back that if we're interested Il