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05 Mr. Krichbaum stated that only those properties that are immediately to the north of Lawrence Park are zoned R -1; the ones opposite the property to the west are zoned R -2; the ones south of Lawrence Park are R-4 and to the east are R -3. He indicated that the notion that they are out -of -sync with the prevailing zoning of the area is questionable. The facts would contradict that. From a standpoint of values, in the course of developing various properties, they have developed lots not dissimilar to these which were adjacent to train tracks and people bought them. They have developed adjacent to sewage treatment plants and people bought those as well. If housing is properly priced, there is a market for almost all housing, including the housing that will be adjacent to this. The values in this neighborhood, if he is any judge and he thinks he is, with the average price of $132,000 (with a low end of $120,000 and a high end of $160,000) there are not many houses in the surrounding area that would sell today at that price even without any development. It is difficult for,him to understand the inflationary nature of this. Would this allow certain people, particularly the R -1 properties to subdivide their lots? Would that be more possible or would it be possible to change their zoning from Farm /Residential to some other use along Highway 70A over time. Probably and there is certainly value in that. He is struggling to see how this devalues their property by the presence of homes, no matter how dense, that are higher priced than the ones that exist there today. Mr. Katz indicated that his point was that while the area adjacent to Lawrence Park may be zoned R -3 or R -4, presently the density is less than that, and that land may become more valuable for further development. In that sense, you can sustain the value but the desirability for people who want to live on property where there is less density diminishes by the presence of this type of development. Mr. Krichbaum disagreed. Mr. Katz indicated that he see the value of this property because of its proximity for commuting. The location for people to find relatively affordable housing and be able to commute to work makes this property desirable. One would expect that there would be further development in that area. Commissioner Halkiotis referred to page 116 of the agenda document where Sheriff Pendergrass documented that he has received 2,100 response calls in that area in the last 12 months. He states that providing service for an additional 800 plus persons will increase the service load for the current allotted personnel. He clearly states that providing service to the Lawrence Park Subdivision will require a minimum of one deputy and one vehicle plus equipment. He is hard for him-to balance that against the statement by the Orange County Emergency Management. They do not seem to answer the question regarding the possibility of needing additional staff and or equipment. He asked if there would be an impact for EMS and fire services. He has noticed this same response coming from EMS for many past proposal. The Board of County Commissioners is lookingmfor more than geographical information. Planning Board Member Strayhorn asked a question regarding impervious surface. He is still not satisfied. It looks like there is a tremendous amount of question regarding this. He cannot understand how a wet pond is going to slow down much of the run off. Mr.Krichbaum stated that the impervious surface on the site as a whole is 25 %. That area would exceed the limit, as 24% is the cut -off point for requiring a detention facility in a critical watershed. In spite of what it may look like, when they have 30% open space outside of the area of the lots, then 25% impervious surface is not very great. As it relates to the wet detention pond, that pond is built with a storage area and then above that an area that holds back run off above the limits of the normal ponds. So that basically, it has a pool area and an impoundment outside the pool that is there to catch the run off, hold it and then release it at a constant rate. It is the standard type of pond that is used throughout the state. It is prescribed by the state Division of Environmental Management for use in these situations. The only reason there is a wet pond, is to allow the water to stand for a period of time prior to discharge so that suspended particulates and impurities in the water will be given chance to settle before they discharge down stream. As he indicated, in the case of a higher rated storm event (a fifty -year or one hundred -year storm event) all of the ground essentially becomes impervious, it becomes saturated and the water stands on top of the ground everywhere. In that case, the difference between pre - development and post - development in these larger storm events is very negligible. There is almost no representative statistical difference in the amount of run -off for a storm of that magnitude. It all runs -off. He also pointed out that there is an existing,culvert under US 70A; he thought it was a moderately sized culvert. He did not know if it had ever run full but he does know that in spite of how much it might rain, and in spite of how much imperious surface there is on this project, no more water is going to get through that pipe than can get through it today. The idea that there is some type of down stream event that will wash the golf course away is restricted by the fact tha t no more water can get down stream than can get through the pipe at US 70 right now.