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'79 Chairman Garrett asked the Board to talk about the Management portion of the study. Commissioner Whitted stated that he thought the Management portion would be separate from the Facility Study. Commissioner Gustaveson stated he would like to speak to the Facility Study as he did not want the County to invest money in the renovating of Grady Brown School properties unless it could be deter- mined that this investment would serve the needs of County Government for a reasonable period of time. Commissioner Walker referred to Commissioner Pinney's plan. He stated that he felt the plan was worthy of discussion and that depart- ments such as the Agriculture Department should have all their services together as the plan illustrates. xe felt Mr. Pinney's plan could be improved as it was not the most ideal plan. Chairman Garrett referred to Item #7 on the Agenda: Review of the proposals with the Consultants. Chairman Garrett introduced Mr. Carl G. Johnson of Carl G. Johnson and Associates of Silver Spring, Maryland. Mr. Johnson spoke of his work through-out the United States and the qualification of his team of seven principals plus an analysis staff. He stated that the approach and philosoph taken in his consultant work was the concept of a disciplinary approach to the problem solving situa- tion. That the fundamental base on which any space or building program to be developed is a projection of the levels of needs for operational service for a limit time and how these needs conform to trends of the County. Mr. Johnson stated that the end product of the Consultant's work will be the development of criteria for requirements of County functions and department function; and a long range space and building program intended to accommodate County needs. A question and answer period ensued. Chairman Garrett inquired about a Personnel Ordinance. Mr. Johnson stated that the study would include a Personnel Ordinance. Commissioner Pinney inquired if the Board needed to tell the Consult- ant what they wanted? Mr. Johnson replied: "Not necessarily, we will tell you what you need and are going to require and report to you what the alternatives are. You must make the policy decisions." Mr. Johnson replied in answer to Chairman Garrett's question that the study would include a School System projection as well as a study of the Board of Commissioners; how it functions as a Board. He reierated that his organization would look at all departments of the County. At the Grady Brown School, they would decide what area to use for what purpose and for how long and also consider the parking situation. Chairman Garrett introduced Joseph Nassif, An Architect from Chapel Hill. Mr. Nassif stated that the proposal he~had presented is basically. his thoughts about space analysis studies and then asked the Board for questions. Chairman Garrett inquired of Mr. Nassif regarding the time required for a space study. Mr. Nassif replied that the time factor would depend on the number of departments to be interviewed as the interviewing would take about eight hours for each department head. Mrs. Garrett spoke of the problems the County was encountering in space requirements for various departments. She said, "We have the Grady xrown School, but how do we solve our problem?"