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70 <br />Brian Crawford: In Orange County? <br />Glenn Bowles: That was never in writing. <br />Judith Wegner: They had a list of ways in which or ordinance would exceeded the minimum requirements but they are <br />not saying we have to remove what is there that exceeds the minimum requirements if you're flooded are they? <br />Glenn Bowles: They encourage you to go beyond the model ordinance. <br />Judith Wegner. So that is not a problem. <br />Glenn Bowles: We incorporated those changes first and then moving things around. <br />Samantha Cabe: On the list of things that exceed the minimum requirement, is the requirement for the base flood <br />elevation dated to be submitted for any development in an SFHA and I have recently had experience with that. It costs <br />between $15,000-$30,000 to have that done. Abase flood elevation opinion or study from an engineer is very <br />expensive and there are people who cannot afford to pay that. <br />Glenn Bowles: This is a FEMA driven requirement. <br />Samantha Cabe: Why is it on the list of items that exceed the minimum requirements? <br />Glenn Bowles: I am not sure. <br />Samantha Cabe: The state said they didn't believe it was required. <br />Glenn Bowles: We don't require anything in that regard. We don't go beyond what FEMA requires. <br />Samantha Cabe: My concern is there anything we can do about this for a person that has only one piece of property. <br />Brian Crawford: If they are saying it exceeds that it is incumbent upon us to take to the minimum necessary. <br />Glenn Bowles: What they don't want to do is to back flood waters on someone else's property which has been a <br />historic problem. <br />Samantha Cabe: My question is why it would not be sufficient to have an engineering opinion about the culvert size? <br />Glenn Bowles: It could be one and the same. There is nothing to say that sizing the culvert and the elevation <br />determination could not be the same study. <br />Samantha Cabe: The study is a very extensive mapping process. <br />Glenn Bowles: And rightfully so. The farmer that came complaining about his culvert flooding out, that is his problem. <br />He undersized the culvert which is not only your problem but someone else's problem. <br />Jay Bryan: Those are good points. We could keep our approval out on this particular issue and then ask for the staff <br />to report back to us or the Board of County Commissioners with more information. <br />Michael Harvey: The specific example used was fill material was added on a flood plain in violation of existing <br />standards without the benefit of a permit or staff review. The reason for the cost is the amount of data that had to be <br />provided for staff to assist the property owner resolving the matter not from a permitting standpoint. We do not <br />encourage or FEMA does not allow us to encourage the development of field and flood plain for the reasons we know. <br />We also having examples where fill material has been used. <br />