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~~3 you are going to coo with it. We needed when we said this in December to be able to start moving. There are other applications already having tentative approval that could be dealt with and considered by the State. There is one in this region. The rest are out of this region." Commissioner Gustaveson inquired, "could you also then answer the question, that at the meeting where these charges were made that Commissioner Walker indicated that he had a conversation with Mrs. Cameron and that it was her explanation that the reason that the priority Grant went from two to one is because they had read in the application that the Orange County Commissioners had agreed to put in 550,000.00 and so that was the reason that it jumped from three to one on'the priority list? This was a charge that was brought out and 2 would like to have you speak to this." Commissioner Walker stated, "This was my summation, Norm, it wasn't what I said Pat ca~neran said." Commissioner Gustaveson replied, "This was the way the charge came out. Tt sounded as if or it was summarized as if this was the reason the State moved it up on the Priority List. This was the reason the State moved it up: on the Priority List was because the State assumed the money had been appropriated. This is what you were saying?" commissioner Walker answered, "Right." (Commissioner Walker, commissioner Gustaveson, and Pat webb all were speaking at this time. Unable to decipher comments other than the fact that Commissioner Walker clarified that it was Sally Cameron, not Pat Cameron). Pat Webb stated, "I, of course, was not a participant in that conversation. 2 cannot see unles it's just somewhat eu: ofcontext with everything else she might have been saying about the whole process. As 2 recall there were some fifteen ap- plications that we were reviewing at the time we settled on the eight that did get approved. There were two in North Central; that there was never even anything that verified any kind of county commitment from the discussion that is occurred out of orange County, which is the first time that an application has been challenged and I assume before the people wanted the building and that was the assumption that we probably will in the future ask for some type of resolution or indication that every- body is willing to proceed if it gets approved, but you certainly learn through your mistakes and 2 think this really gets down to a point of do we want the building or do we notA Do we want 5350,000.00 by gibing $61,000.00 or do we not? Dc we want to save some eight to ten thousand dollars per year in rent or do we not? This is the way we see it. I was going to make the other statement that we recently did an area review, it was in December here, for the Orange-Pers®n.-Chatham and one of the most critical issues that came out in that area review; and some of you were present for those two days, was the need for space. Dr. Coley mentioned that when you have seven locations there is no way you can b~ efficient. There is no way that staff can work together as a team. There is no way that patients can feel that comfortable going in and out of seven different locations trying to get services; so I say, you know, you are right to look at your money. You are certainly accountable far it, and to ask questions about it is your right and I say it is appropriate to do so; but T certainly hope you see an opportunity here that you may not get again for a long whi.l-e.. The other pazt of it is 2 would like to give credit to your own Orange-Person-Chatham Mental. Health Center, two of you serve on that 1~rea Board, and in the Area Review we pointed out that the per capita expenditure for this program ranks second in this region. Number one is Alamance-Caswell Mental Health Center with a little more than $15.00 per capita for Mental. Health Services and this area gets thirteen, a little better than $13.00 per capita; but in contrast to all the other programs you are at the very bottom, ninth in this region, in the amount of County tax dollars that ycu put into this program. You rank at about a per tentage of A.9, whereas the average is somewhere ahautthirty or forty per cent. I would hope that you would look at an opportunity to put in a small amount of County funds in order to get a.big chunk of what you are entitle to." Commissioner Pinney stated, "The only thing that Mr. Walker brought up that I am curious about is about the leasehold interest and the twenty-five years and the lease renewable for a dollar a }+ear. Is this aorta normal in a Grant?' Mrs. Walton requested permission to answer the question. Mr. Webb replied, "I would think that so far we have not had an application that involves a lease. 47e have not before had an application that involved three counties, I think you indirectly lead to that while ago, so there is some uniqueness about this particular application." (Cormissioner walker, Pat L.Tebb, and Mrs. Walton toere all speaking at this time; unable to decipher comments.l Mrs..h'alton stated, "When Sam and I *_alked about the acquisition of this property we were talking ir. terms of the county acquiring the propert}= and owning it, holding title to it. Then i-r. *_urr., ,he County would lease the particular building that the Mental Health Center i~ intereste3 in to the Mental Health Board and we were talking ..n terms of a nominal sum, a dollar a year for probably aroe:nd twenty-five years. It would have to be in excess of twenty years in order for the application. So that's where the dollar a year for twenty-fide Rears would not be your arrangement with the School Board, but would be the Mental Health Board's with the County." Commissioner Walker states, "But Pat, you didn't have that such ~.rrangement when you said you did in the application. This is the point 2 think you .